Tuesday 9 August 2011

Riotous behaviour (2) - Immigration

"Its like watching a nation busily engaged heaping up its own funeral pyre...."
Enoch Powell (Rivers of Blood 1968)
I make no secret of my admiration of Enoch Powell and it is a sad fact today that had we more politicians of similar stature as Powell, the country might not be in the abysmal state it is. Of course, had we listened to him, we would not have the multiculturalism problem that exists today. Courtesy of CallingEngland, my attention is drawn to this youtube record of words that were prescient indeed - as were his words in the Rivers of Blood speech.

"The prospective growth in this country of the immigrant - and immigrant descended population - will result in civil strife of appaling dimensions; and institutions and laws, let alone exhorations, will be powerless to prevent it."
Richard North, EUReferendum, does not have a high regard for the call from Nigel Farage for the army to be deployed, a suggestion to which I too am against.
 
CallingEngland ends her post with words that I only wish I had written - and which I reproduce:
"I know it's raking over old coals and it's controversial but the man was right. There were marches in the streets in support of his comments on immigration but it made no difference to his fate.  Heath kicked him out of the Conservative Party and, in hindsight, it's more likely to have been for his views on the European Union than immigration.  Nothing has changed and if the English people were truly served by their "public service" broadcasting media and their governments they wouldn't now be afraid to get out on the streets and reclaim them from these out-of-control looters.  If the police can't, the people must.  We don't need the Army, rubber bullets or water cannon, not on English streets.  What we need is the collective will to confront our government and judiciary about these problems and a willingness to see off these youngsters by ourselves, for ourselves.  Let's leave the State out of it; they're the ones that created this mess."
 If you wish to marvel at the powers of a wordsmith and orator, do pop over to CallingEngland's place and listen to approximately 20 minutes of sheer verbal wizardry.

12 comments:

The Gray Monk said...

Powell was absolutely right. Those who can recall Broadwater Farm know that and so do the Liebor and Scocialist Left - but they still vilify him and even wanted to ban the Memorial Service for him in St Margaret's Westminster.

The trouble is - it's probably now too late to sort it out.

WitteringsfromWitney said...

TGM: You are probably unfortunately correct in your final sentence.

However I do not see why it cannot be possible to deport those who abuse our country to that of their descendents were the yobs born over here. (once we're out of the EU of course)

PeterCharles said...

Enoch was indeed correct, and a majority of the public most certainly agreed with him, but we were already in the grip of the post war change to Social Democratic policies.

Even though it was obvious there would be a labour shortage as the UK and the world recovered from WW2 they saw only the spectre of unemployed soldiery leading to social unrest. They then made everything worse by the introduction of policies to guarantee employment. They brought in nationalisation, demarcation and deliberate overmanning while rebuilding our manufacturing infrastructure with 1920s technology instead of modernising it. Then they found their fears of unemployment leading to social unrest, as occurred after WW1, were unfounded and we had a labour shortage instead, but instead of introducing sensible policies like taking immigrant commonwealth workers on for fixed contracts and then sending them home they made the entire lot British citizens with full rights of entry and settlement.

By the 1970s the first baby-boomers had sucked up all the available jobs, manufacturing was at last modernising and endemic unemployment was starting to rear its head, falling disproportionately on the immigrant populations. Thus all our cultural and racial troubles started.

Had we not allowed that level of immigration we would not have endemic unemployment, remember that there are around 8 million people of working age who don't, nor all the concomitant underclass problems that has spawned and nor would our population be heading beyond our capacity to accommodate it. The post war immigrant heritage now accounts for around 13% of our population, without them we would be around the much more comfortable and sustainable 55 million instead of 62 million heading exponentially to 70 million.

kenomeat said...

A little known fact is that the Tory party manifesto for the 1970 election included a promise to introduce a system of voluntary repatriation for new Commonwealth immigrants. When in power this promise was forgotten. They had also promised to virtually end all new immigration. So the policies of Enoch were official Tory policy; it was just the way he expressed it that was considered objectionable.

TomTom said...

MP for Witney

An alternate view from the new Conservative Party.....

kenomeat said...

Regarding the riots and the response of politicians that wonderful sage, Harriet Harman, was on the box yesterday saying that the government should compensate businesses that were not covered by insurance. Just think about that for a minute. You get money to restart your business whether you pay insurance premiums or not! What great brains the Labour party have at their disposal.

The Gray Monk said...

WfW, the problem with deporting any of them is an organisation called the UN and another called Amnesty. Both argue that we cannot deport anyone who might face "hardship or torture" in the country they are sent to. Ms Chakrabati maintains that "International Law" - UN Treaties - take precedence over our own, and our courts have agreed in the past, so we now have Case Law on the English Common Law system which protects this scum...

Evict Ms Chakrabati and her cohorts, sack all the present Bench and all the Civil Servants writing "guidance" and we might stand a chance of getting our "justice" back on track.

TomTom said...

saying that the government should compensate businesses that were not covered by insurance.

Now why weren't local Chambers of Commerce and Councils ADVISING small businesses to have proper insurance and providing business advice ?

In Continental Countries Membership of Chambers of Commerce is Compulsory; they handle Training and organise matters. The British are chaotic.

WitteringsfromWitney said...

PC: Agreed.

TT: I have an MP??????? I've met the cardboard cutout.......

k: We can safely disregard anything Mad Hatty says.........

TGM: I know, I know...... Agreed it is not just our polies etc that need to go forth, but yes, also the UN, Amnesty and most definitely Ms. C!

TT: Good point and one that I was aware of and should have mentioned myself.....

Jamess said...

Hang on a second Kenomeat... Companies have paid their insurance to the state for protection. The state has failed to provide that protection, and so, if it were a private company, ought to offer compensation.

That said, instead of paying out other people's money (typical Labour "generosity") how about zero business tax on any business destroyed by the riots, overlook 90% of health and safety rules(i.e. let shops trade in still-damaged buildings provided they are at least structurally sound), set income tax at 10% for owners and employees of these businesses, remove the NI tax and get rid of VAT in these shops and finally, guarantee that this reduced tax burden will last for at least 5 years.

After 5 years these shop oweners will be celebrating the day the riots came and their taxes were reduced. (And they will probably have paid more tax than if they were given a government handout to get them back on their feet before the tax man came and punched them to the ground again).

kenomeat said...

James: I don't mind the uninsured businesses getting help so long as the insured businesses get the same help. It's a matter of principle. I agree with your ideas on the kind of help that can be provided.

Jamess said...

Kenomeat: Can't agree more!